• buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-01

    No. This is completely false, and misportraying Christianity completely.

    Easter is a Pagan Festival, tried to be turned into a Roman Catholic Festival by the Roman Empire.

    Christians say to celebrate Passover, and the deliverance. And they all used to, and now only "true Christians" do.

    The eucharist, a round piece of dried bread, is not Christian either. It's from Roman sun worship, and represents the sun.

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  • hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    2021-09-02

    @buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de so what? ;)

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  • buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-02

    Misportraying a religion with disparaging and derogatory remarks is abusive.

    You may as well post that "Islam claims to be protective of women but Muhammad was a pedophile"

    This is completely false, yet people post stuff like that all over the internet right now. It's completely abusive

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  • hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    2021-09-02

    To be honest.... i don't care.

    I like to post such stuff ... and i like that you keep your thoughts about for yourself.

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  • buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-03

    If anyone has constructive criticism for Christianity or any religion, that is one thing, but just lying about and saying defamatory things that are completely untrue to mock it, or any religion is just abuse.

    I will not, and no one should, tolerate abuse.

    I recently posted some information about ignored truths on the Dalai Lama. That is constructive.

    Mocking and harassing Christians, or any religion, is extremely abusive behavior, and is completely inappropriate in any setting, including Diaspora.

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  • Phil Landmeier
    Phil Landmeier
    2021-09-03

    The critique here is not of Christianity itself but of people described in the first line of the meme. Point a finger at others (which many Protestants are inclined to do in the USA) to criticize the same or similar behaviors, just called by a different name and framed differently.

    Christianity is fine. It's certain Christians who are a problem. That's what this meme is talking about: the kind of hypocrisy that Jesus himself condemned.

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  • hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    hackbyte (pluspora DEFUNCT!) moved to friendica.utzer.de
    2021-09-03

    @buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de In MY setting it is complete acceptable.

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  • buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-05

    "The critique here is not of Christianity itself but of people described in the first line of the meme."

    It's describes "Christian" in the first line of the meme, not "some Christians" or "certain Christians" or "pagan Christians " or "false Christians". And it is not condemning SOME individual Christians, it is condemning ALL CHRISTIANS.

    I've heard some describe their feed as their "front lawns" . Islamophobia and islam hate is no different, or less acceptable, than Christian phobia or Christian hate, or bashing.

    It shouldn't be acceptable by anyone, as shouldn't any abuse.

    It's pure abuse and harrassment.

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  • Phil Landmeier
    Phil Landmeier
    2021-09-05

    @buzzkill Yeah, well, it's also in 2021 context. Real Christians don't make a lot of noise. Jesus said not to. Today in the U.S.A. the term "Christian" has become tainted to mean the loud, Pharisee, praying in the streets, militant, KKK pseudo-Christians. Like it or not, that's what everyone else sees, precisely because these folks seek the limelight and inflate their religiosity to extreme levels.

    It's terrible, but that's what has happened. When you read a short meme like this, you have to take into account today's context. Back in the 1950s, this meme would be nonsense. Today it's not.

    In the U.S.A. today, when you generalize and say "Christian", the image is of a Pat Robertson not a Jesuit priest. I can't help that. I didn't create it. I don't like it. But that's how it is.

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  • buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-05

    People can try and appropriate terminology but that doesn't make it true or real. Christianity is what Christianity is, regardless of what Donald Trump is selling it to be. Smearing all Christianity and Christians with abuse, is still smearing all Christian and Christianity with abuse.

    That's like saying "homosexuals are a bunch of wussy anorexic tight jeans wearing, make up wearing bad song singing sell outs on MTV pushing ultra sexualized simplisitic dance pop"

    just because now that being "out" is "ok" and corporate media is trying to exploit certain things amongst their normal exploitations that they didn't used to, and that now this is the dominate media image of homosexuals, doesn't mean that it's completely untrue, totally abusive and nothing but harrassment.

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  • buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    buzzkill@diaspora.schoenf.de
    2021-09-05

    or "computer programmers are just autistic retards with no social skills who are completely self absorbed and selfish who no matter how many times they are warned about their total ineptness, they continue their drooling moronic behavior because of their hopeless immaturity and uncaring for anyone but themselves, and are happier being alone than putting any effort into being a decent human being, and don't want to be good people, they just want to be enabled and do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they please."

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  • Phil Landmeier
    Phil Landmeier
    2021-09-06

    @buzzkill When it comes to language, it does make it true. Unfortunately, the only thing that matters is how people interpret what is said. This is the only truth when it comes to communication. If you wish to communicate well and clearly, you have to take that into account and manipulate what you say in order to produce the desired effect in the listener's brain when it comes in through their personal filters. The "absolute meaning" of words is not important.

    Personally, I don't like this bit of reality at all. I prefer that language be pretty strict, like math. But it's not. I was furious when homosexuals appropriated the word "gay". "Well, there goes another word down the drain." Not because I have anything against gay men but because I see it as a corruption of language We have enough problems communicating without words becoming "distorted" (in my opinion.) It also obsoletes or destroys things that were written in the past. "Don we now our gay apparel..." But, I don't make the rules about how humans use language.

    Funny because I'm in the middle of a dustup on Twitter with come black friends who took issue with a headline that said "she was going home." To a white person, this means she's going home to her husband. To a black person this means she died and is going to Heaven. Rather different interpretations of the same words -- and this language interpretation quirk goes back at least 150 years.

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